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Homosexuality is a disorder. It was never normal and is never normal... Lots of people are confused about what is natural and what is unnatural? Let me explain you with few examples.
Ex 1: Inhaling Oxygen is natural. Whereas deliberately and forcefully inhaling C2O is unnatural... Smoking is an example of inhaling C2O forcefully... Hence by doing this unnatural act one is going to face the consequences...
Ex 2: Cattle taking vegetarian food are natural... Forcefully making them eat non veg is unnatural... You might have heard about the cows in Australia getting some vierd disease? Hence the consequences by doing an unnatural act...
Ex 3: Cutting down huge amount of trees is unnatural... Hence the terror of Global warming...
Similar is the case of Gay... A female sexual organ is designed is such a way that it can accommodate the male sexual organ... If anything other than that is inserted it is unnatural and she has to face the consequences... Same way a male sexual organ is meant for female sexual organ and if he inserts it into something else he has to face for the consequences...
Same way the Anal organ of either male or female is meant for the excretion of stools... If anything is inserted into it against the natural course, it is bound to consequences... Hence sodomy is an unnatural act and is a disorder... Whether it is done with either male or female it is unnatural... Ask any doctor, s/he will tell you about it.
If someone wants to do it with "Mutual Consent" let them do it within the four walls and do not disturb the society (Now this doesnt mean it is right)... If such thing is made legal then there will be consequences within the society... You may not face the consequences right now... But it is inevitable...
A "Sociologist" may give you a better reply about the consequences on the society...
Let us not go in the direction of the wind... Let us study where the wind goes and where will it lead us? Then make a decision whether to go by the direction of the wind or to go against... It is true that homosexuality existed from age old days... It is also mentioned in the Quran... This doesnt mean that if it existed from age old days it is correct... It also does not mean that if it did not exist and people are doing it now then it has to be wrong... We have to study the things carefully and then come to a decision... Not to follow the west in all directions..
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I completely disagree with this. Here are the reasons:
ReplyDeleteLets take your first example first. Breathing in CO2 forcefully is unnatural? I dont think so. It might be harmfull and thats why we dont it. But how can you say its unnatural? Who decides in this case what is natural and what is not? Did you realize we DO breathe in CO2 the little amount present in air? Just because something is harmfull and hence we avoid it, doesnt mean its unnatural. Breathing in N2 gas would also be unnatural according to your concept then, wouldnt it? Air has about 78% of N2 in it, if you forcefully breathe pure N2 and i mean N2 without oxygen, definetly consequences will be bad. But its natural for us to take in N2.
Your concept of natural and unnatural is according to me illogical.
Next point, what do you mean by "disorder"??
Just that its different from what you like or what you would do? And just because MAJORITY of people around you are like you, you call their actions "disease"?
And why should it not be legalized? Does anyone force you to marry a man? How does it affect you? Why be so arrogant? Why not respect the fact that even homosexual people are humans and deserve a happy life.
Moreover, your examples were examples of "forced actions" not disorders. And homosexuality is not even something someone simply says it.
Just try to put everything aside and think for a few seconds. Would a blind person, want to be blind if he could help it? I mean in a situation where the whole country discriminates against him, the whole country hates him for being blind, do you think a blind person would remain blind if s/he could help it?
Would you ever marry a guy even (assume you dont consider it unnatural and consider it perfectly normal) in a country like India, if you could instead marry a woman and live a normal life? Would anyone invite all this humiliation?
These guys have come on streets, they are fighting for their rights, just imagine what they must be going through, even if you dont agree with it, atleast give enough respect to them so they can live their lives the way they want.
Today how many Indians will go on streets to fight against corruption? VERY FEW. A thing as big as corruption, and you wouldnt be humiliated by trying to fight against it, but these guys are fighting for Gay rights, just try to imagine what they would be going through that they had to come out and shout and cry.
What I meant about Natural was if you are put into a room with CO2 you wont survive dude... Naturally u take in Oxygen not CO2... Hope u got what I meant with natural...
ReplyDeleteI just want to prove a point that no one is born gay. Gay is not by birth. Coz there is no scientific evidence to prove that one is homosexual or bisexual or even heterosexual by birth. The current thinking in the scientific community is that homosexuality is likely caused by a complex interaction of psychosocial, environmental and possible biological factors. And the two leading national psychiatric and psychological professional groups agree that, so far, there are no conclusive studies supporting any specific biological or genetic cause for homosexuality -"Fact Sheet on Gay Lesbian Bisexual Issues," the American Psychiatric Association, May 2000; and "American Psychological Association Online: Answers to Your Questions/Topic – Sexuality/What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?," www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html.
Hence there is no scientific or DNA test to tell us if a person is homosexual, bisexual or even heterosexual for that matter. And since nobody is "born gay," it's clear that sexual orientation is, at its core, a matter of "how one defines oneself" – not a matter of biology or genes. Hence homosexuality is not by "Nature". The matter of sexual orientation comes into picture during the time of adolescence. This is the time when the "nuRture" comes into picture. The surroundings the environment and the behavior of a particular adolescent play a pivotal role in this regard. It is the role of the parents to guide their children in the right direction. Even if a person because of the surroundings becomes a homosexual s/he CAN change his/her sexual orientation to normal. A human has got brain and s/he can think on this issue and make himself change to the normal circumstances.
I just want to share a few of the statistics (Note: statistics are not any evidence but they surely speak something)
ReplyDelete* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States ("Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987). They make up only 1-2% of the population.
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989)
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (Rueda, E. "The Homosexual Network." Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53)
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (same above) * Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (same above)
* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE)
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322)
It is not Majority or Minority point. And I never called it as a disease. I said it is disorder, chaos, or "Fasaad" in Urdu. It should be rooted out or else it will spread the whole society and spoil it.
And it is not the point of someone forcing me or not. It is the point of society. This legalizing kinda thing affects the whole society dear. If you read sociology you will come to know how it does. I am not arrogant towards them or anyone. This is not a disease nor is it by birth or nor a person is homosexual by Nature. This is an evil which he himself has made for his unending and acquired tendency to satisfy own pleasure. These people can lead a happy life by making themselves correct. It isn't impossible. As the blind person wants to see the world by curing his blindness same way these people can correct themselves to become normal and lead a good life.
These guys hav come on streets not to fight for their rights.. They hav a different agenda a hidden agenda which you never know until it is spead in the society. It is always better to prevent than to cure...
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if there is no testing for sexuality, what makes being heterosexual "normal" and homosexual "disorder"??
ReplyDelete"
No, homosexuality is not a disease. All major mental health organizations, including the American Psychological Association (APA), have stated that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. Being unsure or uncomfortable about your feelings can cause anxiety and stress, which can sometimes cause physical problems like trouble sleeping, nausea and headache. Talking with people about how you feel, such as trusted family members and friends, can help reduce your stress and anxiety."
http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/children/teens/sexuality/739.html
I dont think i need to explain any further on the point that i want to make by quoting the above lines from a website.
Whether homosexuality is a disorder or not, i guess finally comes down to your perception of the word "disorder".
But anyway you have no right to force a person with a disorder to cure her/him self.
ESPECIALLY a person who can think for her/himself like a normal person. Homosexual people think very normally and are not mentally challenged. Whether homosexuality itself is a psychological disorder or not is a different thing, but it atleast does not handicap their IQ or thinking abilities, and i think they have the right to decide if they want to cure what you call "their disease". more importantly because it is their personal matter.
About the CO2 part, yes i did understand, but i think breathing in CO2 is perfectly normal, just that NOT breathing in O2 could cause death. CO2 isnt even poisonous!
ReplyDeleteBro I nowhere told it is a mental disorder... I told it is a disorder and have given even more synonyms for it... Chaos and FASAAD in urdu... if u consider this definition
ReplyDelete"a disturbance of the peace or of public order"
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A robber is perfect in his mental abilities... But robbing is a disorder... It will create chaos in the society. Why do we stop persons from robbing? Because it leads to disorder in the society... That is what we actually want to convey... I never doubted or even pointing finger to the metal ability of those persons... Mentally those people are perfect. Thats the reason I told they have hidden agenda...
Friend homosexuality leads to Chaos and Disorder in the society... It is better to stop before it gets spread...
My point was, that yes, they are not mentally challenged and therefore have a right to do what they want.
ReplyDeleteWhen a robber robs someone else's stuff , that is illegal.
It is because he has no right to take someone else's position.
Here the question is different. It's about us straight people stealing their right to exist and have a peacefull life.
Homosexuality doesnt have a bad affect on the society. I have friends who have friends who are homosexual and they hand around with each other and even sometimes go to gay pubs together. Just that they themselves unlike gays dont have sex or go out with partners of the same gender.
What hidden agenda?
and for once, think about the lives millions of Indians have to live because of ideologies like yours, what are you trying to save here? A straight dominated society? why not just be secular and tolerant? Your life isnt even affected, theirs is, every second, every breath we take, they are being humiliated, for no reason.
has no right to take someone else's possessions.lol, i meant someone else's things
ReplyDeleteMy old Sociology college textbooks would describe being homosexual as a "psychological disorder" for around 6 editions and the 7th was changed.
ReplyDeleteMost PHD friends of mine (if being a PHD really means anything now) still accept homosexuality as indeed a disorder. Is it only these new generations of people who don't believe this? Since they learn that your born this way now?